Posts by Julia Orwell

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Which of the SEVEN stages of post JW behavior are you in right now?

by Terry in

1. they done me wrong.

2. i'm depressed.

3. i'm gonna act like an apostate (smoke, drink, drugs, sex, outrageous behavior).

Julia Orwell

I skipped the crazy sex n drugs stage and will grumble about what idiots they are but mostly I'm in activism in that I will tell people I meet what jws are really like. I did rebel a little by celebrating birthdays and Christmas and drinking a lot!!

Interestingly, for me an many others, leaving the cult had the same stages as bereavement or breakup:

Denial of ttatt

Bargaining (if only, maybe I can stay for social life)

Anger (at their crappy teachings n the wrong they've done you )

Grief (missing the good things about the jw life, friends who now shun you)

Depression (guilt over being silly enough to join, the realisation of how much of your life you can't get back, feeling futile over loved ones still trapped)

Acceptance of the past

Moving on from it and getting on with life: rebuilding.

There's also the aspect of having to renegotiate your beliefs, beliefs you've had no say in formulating that you now have to sit down and work out for yourself, such as, what do I think about homosexuality? What do I think about Harry potter?

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The Apostasy Within

by Ultimate Axiom in

in the latest watchtower (july 15, 2014, page 14, paragraph 10) it says; today, jehovahs people are not often confronted with apostasy within the congregation.

still, when exposed to unscriptural teachings, regardless of the source, we must decisively reject them.. so, not often, but occasionally jws are exposed to apostasy within the congregation, and they are instructed to decisively reject it.

as we all know, the vast majority of the apostasy they are exposed to comes from the governing body.. i am meeting up soon with an old friend from the 1970s who i havent seen for decades, who is still an active jw, and who would really like to hear what i think about things.

Julia Orwell

Also, if blood fraction is ok, does that mean fractions of the other things in that scripture ok? What fractions of fornication and idolatry are ok?

I reckon if you put these contradictions to your friend as questions you will have a better chance of reaching him: The bible says x, so why does the wt teach y and z?

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Is the Centenary Campaign in August 2014 really for the public?

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

i was thinking about what i read in a recent kingdom ministry about the historical campaign the jws will engage in this august.. this is not really for the public.. it is to keep the jw's busy, not thinking about why 100 years has gone by with no end in sight, but to buoy up flagging enthusiasm.. they trying to make jws maintain a constant state of tension and expectation..

Julia Orwell

It's a cold month here in Australia and the kids are at school. At least the kids won't be dragged around on their school holidays.

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The Apostasy Within

by Ultimate Axiom in

in the latest watchtower (july 15, 2014, page 14, paragraph 10) it says; today, jehovahs people are not often confronted with apostasy within the congregation.

still, when exposed to unscriptural teachings, regardless of the source, we must decisively reject them.. so, not often, but occasionally jws are exposed to apostasy within the congregation, and they are instructed to decisively reject it.

as we all know, the vast majority of the apostasy they are exposed to comes from the governing body.. i am meeting up soon with an old friend from the 1970s who i havent seen for decades, who is still an active jw, and who would really like to hear what i think about things.

Julia Orwell

Oh dear, there are so many. The mediator issue comes to mind in Tim 2:5. Jwfacts.com has zillions of examples and resources.

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Appeal Against Elders Decision... Can Anyone Advise..

by Almond in

i meet a 6 years baptised jw girl.

we planned to marry here in philippines ( no divorce here }.

judge told me he can do the marriage so we livived together to be married.

Julia Orwell

Run away from the jws with your lady and make your own life. That's the best. It will take some time to clear your head but it's worth it. That organization will just chew you up and spit you out otherwise.

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Anyone going to the memorial this year?

by Pyramid God in

jw
friends

i was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.

anyone else?.

Julia Orwell

Hell no. I had an emotional breakdown at last year's one, my last meeting ever with jws and the end of my rapid fade. Not gonna pit myself in a situation so full of crap it makes me cry!!

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Shunning now applies to non-jw relatives of apostates...

by Julia Orwell in

apparently.

my never-a-jw mother was at the shops with my never-a-jw 5 year old niece today and saw some jws she's known loosely for years as they were friends of mine.

she'd even taught the teenaged girl among them.

Julia Orwell

It's amazing how much these people don't think. I shunned with the rest of them as a jw, but not to the point of ignoring someone. I'd make eye contact or say hi where I could. Isn't that a better way to win someone over?

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Shunning now applies to non-jw relatives of apostates...

by Julia Orwell in

apparently.

my never-a-jw mother was at the shops with my never-a-jw 5 year old niece today and saw some jws she's known loosely for years as they were friends of mine.

she'd even taught the teenaged girl among them.

Julia Orwell

Lol if they came mum would be as nice to then as to anyone because although she's atheist, she's more Christian than anyone else I've met in my life. Although a non believer, she's modeled her life after Jesus's example of charity and forgiveness so although the jws upset her, she's forgiven those who will never forgive someone with an apostate daughter.

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Shunning now applies to non-jw relatives of apostates...

by Julia Orwell in

apparently.

my never-a-jw mother was at the shops with my never-a-jw 5 year old niece today and saw some jws she's known loosely for years as they were friends of mine.

she'd even taught the teenaged girl among them.

Julia Orwell

Apparently. My never-a-jw mother was at the shops with my never-a-jw 5 year old niece today and saw some jws she's known loosely for years as they were friends of mine. She'd even taught the teenaged girl among them. She sees them and decides to approach them to say hello, and as she reaches them they all turn their backs on her and the little girl. She thought it pathetic of them but when she told me I wanted to tear their heads off.

It's one thing that people I've known since birth ( the teenager) and since 1998 shun me because their puppet masters tell them to, but my mother? WTF did my mother ever do to them? I'm so mad cuz no one treats my mother like that!!!! I want to call them up and give them a mouth ful, but WTF would be the point!

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

Julia Orwell

"We can dance if we want to/ we can leave your friends behind/ cuz your friends don't dance/ and if they don't dance/ well, they're no friends of mine!" - Men Without Hats, "The Safety Dance"